To be fair, Taylor Swift is a 35-year-old woman who is engaged to be married. Still, you have to imagine that if there was a family listening party for the singer’s just-released 12th studio album, The Life of a Showgirl, there must have some cheeks streaked red with embarrassment when track nine, “Wood,” popped up.

If somehow you haven’t yet heard what is widely being perceived as one of the LP’s several sweaty homages to Swift’s fiancé, NFL tight end Travis Kelce, then you’re missing out on such lusty lines as: “Forgive me, it sounds cocky/ He ah-matized me and opened my eyes/ Redwood tree, it ain’t hard to see/ His love was the key that opened my thighs.”

Now we know exactly how Swift’s mother, Andrea, reacted to the news that “a hard rock is on the way.” In a chat with SiriusXM’s The Morning Mash Up on Monday morning (Oct. 6), Swift told co-host Nicole Ryan that her mother “thinks that that song is about superstitions, popular superstitions, which… it absolutely is,” the singer said of the track that opens with images of black cats, stepping on cracks and knocking on wood for good luck.

“Aw, Andrea, we love you, so sweet,” Ryan said.

“That’s the joy of the double entendre. That song, you could read that song for people and it just goes right over their head,” Swift said with a knowing laugh. “That song you, you see in that song what you wanna see in that song.”

Swift also delved into her increasing use of profanity and explicit lyrics in songs on the album that sold nearly three million copies on its first day of release, something she said is meant to amp up the drama in her songs.

“If it… to me improves the intensity of the moment or if, in terms of syllables or just consonance and vowels, if, if to me it pops off more, you know, there are certain lyrics that just bounce more,” Swift explained. “Or if it feels like it’s a part of the vernacular of how that character that I’m kind of cosplaying in that song would speak. Like, there are a lot of different reasons you choose to throw in a swear word or like a certain phrase or a sort of alliteration or whatever. But that’s what I love so much about songwriting is those, those decisions are fun and oftentimes hilarious to make.”

Listen to Swift describe her mom’s reaction to “Wood” below.